Ways & Means Committee

Thursday, April 16, 2026, 2 p.m. (Boston time), Boston City Hall, 1 City Hall Square, Boston, MA 02201

Hearing on Dockets #0733-0740, 0741-0743, FY27 Budget: BPS Operations, Revolving Funds

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The Ways & Means Committee, chaired by Councilor Weber, held a hearing on the FY27 Boston Public Schools budget (dockets 0733-0740 and 0741-0743, sponsored by Mayor Michelle Wu), covering food service, safety, human resources/staffing, transportation, and the facilities, transportation, and technology revolving funds. BPS officials testified about roughly 175 position reductions (57 from central office), bus monitor and safety officer staffing, vendor fines assessed against TransDev for uncovered trips (about $105,000 in March), and rising transportation costs of about $200 million despite fewer routes. Councilors pressed for restoration of three cut district social workers, questioned why BPS is the only city department carrying its own health insurance costs, and requested data on central office positions, external funds, home schools, and salary savings. Four members of the public, including three Boston Teachers Union representatives, testified urging centralization of health insurance in the city budget and funding for school social workers. Several follow-up data requests were made; the hearing was adjourned with a further session planned the next day.

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3:24 and.

10:21 I'm.

11:12 Not.

13:30 Good afternoon.

13:32 Uh, my name is ben weber.

13:34 I'm the district six city

13:35 councilor and the chair of the

13:36 boston city council on ways and

13:37 means.

13:41 Today is APRIL 16th, 2026 and

13:44 the exact time is 2:13 P.M.

13:46 This hearing is being recorded

13:49 is also being live streamed at

13:52 boston.Gov/city council tv and

13:54 broadcast on xfinity channel

13:57 eight or cn channel 82 and

13:59 files channel 964.

14:01 The council's budget review

14:04 process uh will encompass a

14:06 series of public hearings uh,

14:09 that began on tuesday uh and

14:11 will run through JUNE.

14:13 We strongly encourage residents

14:15 to take a moment to engage in

14:16 this process by giving

14:18 testimony for the record, you

14:20 can do so in the following ways

14:22 first, attend one of our

14:25 hearings, uh, and give public

14:25 testimony.

14:29 We will take public testimony

14:31 uh, during each hearing.

14:33 Uh, these the uh for these

14:34 hearings will be uh, taking

14:36 public testimony at the end

14:37 of the first round of questions

14:38 for my colleagues.

14:43 Um, uh and also at two hearings

14:44 dedicated to public testimony

14:47 call listening sessions, um,

14:49 the full hearing schedules on

14:52 our website at

14:53 boston.Gov/council-budget are

14:55 scheduled hearings dedicated to

14:57 public testimony are in person

14:59 here in city hall on tuesday

15:01 APRIL 28th at 6 P.M. And again

15:04 in person at city hall on

15:06 thursday, MAY 26th at 6 P.M.

15:07 you can give testimony in

15:10 person here in the chamber or

15:12 virtually via zoom for

15:13 in-person testimony.

15:14 Please come to the chamber and

15:16 sign up on the sheet near the

15:16 entrance.

15:18 Uh, which is over there for

15:21 anyone in the chamber um, for

15:23 virtual testimony, you can sign

15:25 up using our online form at our

15:27 council uh, budget review

15:29 website or by emailing the

15:33 committee at squirm@boston.Gov

15:35 or by emailing our central

15:38 staff liaison at karishma

15:39 chohan that's sorry krishna is

15:46 kkr I s h m a.Co and@boston.Gov

15:48 when you are called to testify

15:50 please state your name and

15:51 affiliation uh and residents

15:54 and limit your comments to uh a

15:57 few minutes to ensure that all

15:58 comments and concerns can be

15:58 heard.

16:01 Email your written testimony to

16:02 the committee or I'm sorry.

16:04 So in addition to showing up

16:06 and testifying in person or

16:07 doing that in person or

16:08 virtually, you can also submit

16:10 written testimony which you can

16:13 do by emailing the testimony to

16:16 the committee that scott wmi

16:16 boston.Com.

16:19 Third, you can submit a two

16:21 minute video of your testimony

16:22 through the form on our

16:22 website.

16:24 For more information on the

16:26 city council budget process and

16:28 how to testify, please visit

16:29 the city council's budget

16:32 website at boston.Gov

16:34 council dash budget in person

16:35 public testimony will be taken

16:37 uh following the first round

16:39 of questions again um and

16:41 individuals uh who are called

16:42 will have two minutes to

16:44 testify again if you wish to

16:45 sign up for public testimony

16:46 have not done so already.

16:50 Um, you can email our director

16:51 of legislative budget uh,

16:53 analysis chris would show on at

17:00 uh k r I s h mccue hand at

17:01 boston.Com for the zoom link

17:03 and your name will be added to

17:04 the list again that's for

17:05 virtual testimony.

17:06 If you're here in person all

17:09 you need to do is sign up, um,

17:10 on the sheet and I'll call your

17:10 name.

17:12 This afternoon's hearing is on

17:18 docket numbers 073320740 and

17:23 docket numbers 074120743.

17:25 The focus of this hearing is on

17:28 the fy 27 budget for boston

17:28 public schools.

17:31 This hearing will cover topics

17:33 including food service safety

17:35 office of human resources slash

17:37 staffing uh and transportation.

17:40 This hearing will also

17:41 cover the facilities,

17:43 transportation and technology

17:43 revolving funds.

17:45 This is one in a series

17:47 of hearings to review the fy 27

17:48 budget.

17:49 It's also one of three hearings

17:52 we're holding specifically on

17:54 the fy 27 budget.

17:57 I want to note, uh, for my

17:59 colleagues and uh and for the

18:02 panelists that the central

18:04 office budget is relevant to

18:07 our discussions at all of our

18:08 hearings given the overlap

18:10 of this budget with many of our

18:12 specific topics in case of this

18:13 ,in the case of this

18:16 particular hearing, uh, we are

18:17 likely to discuss centrally

18:18 budgeted services and personnel

18:19 .

18:21 These matters were sponsored by

18:22 mayor michelle wu and referred

18:26 to the committee on APRIL 8th

18:26 2026.

18:28 Today I'm joined by my

18:30 colleagues in order of arrival

18:32 uh, councilor murphy,

18:33 councilor flynn,

18:36 councilor breadon uh uh and uh

18:38 I believe we received a letter

18:39 of absence from

18:40 councilor culpepper.

18:43 Um, I would like to introduce

18:46 our panelists, uh, from the all

18:47 from the boston public schools.

18:49 We have, uh, yeah.

18:51 Uh, senior deputy

18:52 superintendent of operations

18:54 doctor sam de pina, uh, chief

18:56 of human resources francis jay

18:57 canty.

18:58 Uh, right.

19:01 Uh, executive director

19:03 of transportation dan rosengard

19:04 executive director of safety,

19:06 security and school crisis

19:09 response izzy marrero, uh and

19:10 deputy chief financial officer

19:12 blair dockets right.

19:14 And I have been told that the

19:18 uh uh chief uh, financial

19:20 officer uh, who's also here

19:22 david bloom um, to answer

19:25 questions uh, he has a call at

19:25 330.

19:26 He MAY step out.

19:29 Um, he'll be coming back and

19:31 his deputy uh, sorry.

19:33 Blair can answer all questions.

19:37 Um, you know, in his absence,

19:40 um, uh let's see.

19:42 Um.

19:47 Let's, um.

19:51 Okay, so, uh, we are going to

19:54 start now I guess with uh, any

19:55 presentation or statement.

19:56 No.

19:58 Um, we just would want to again

19:59 just say good afternoon to

20:00 everyone here, the

20:01 council members and the public

20:04 joining us and uh, happy to

20:05 discuss uh, the topics here

20:07 this afternoon and look forward

20:08 to answering your questions is

20:09 sharing, uh, a lot about the

20:10 work that we're doing and more

20:10 planning to do.

20:10 Okay.

20:11 thank you.

20:12 Uh.

20:13 Let's get started.

20:13 Councilor murphy.

20:15 Uh, seven minutes.

20:15 Okay.

20:18 Thank you.

20:18 Chair.

20:19 Thank you all for.

20:21 Being here.

20:21 Um.

20:23 Some follow up questions.

20:26 I know we've met a few times

20:27 Um.

20:27 already.

20:31 And some outstanding questions

20:32 I have.

20:32 If you, david.

20:34 Could speak directly.

20:35 One of the questions I asked

20:37 twice now is to separate out

20:39 the central office budget

20:42 knowing that, um, it's not just

20:42 staff that.

20:45 Are working under skipper.

20:46 That it's all of.

20:48 Our custodians.

20:50 If you could list all of the

20:52 other um, employees and bp's

20:54 who are paid through the

20:55 central budget and then

20:58 separate out the overall cut

21:00 and which positions were cut,

21:01 that would be helpful.

21:02 Thank you.

21:02 Yes.

21:03 um thank you.

21:08 So um, we have um,

21:11 approximately um, 2800

21:13 centrally funded positions.

21:16 Um, this is everything from um

21:19 bus monitors to custodians to

21:20 special education related

21:21 services staff as well as the

21:22 central office.

21:26 Um, our budget includes about

21:28 700 of the positions are what

21:30 you would, um, often think

21:31 of as sort of.

21:34 Traditional central office

21:34 roles.

21:37 Um, that includes for example

21:38 like the whole finance team.

21:38 Right.

21:40 All of our accounts payable

21:42 those sorts of things for

21:44 instance as team h.R um as well

21:46 as sort of supervision for

21:48 academics and other areas um we

21:52 have uh 56 I believe is our

21:55 most updated number uh, fte

21:57 of reductions uh.

22:00 Of the 700 up to 2800.

22:04 Of the 700 um about 175 from

22:05 the 2800.

22:09 So 175 total of which 57 are.

22:10 Our central.

22:11 Central office.

22:14 Um and because you had said to

22:15 last time that you know, you

22:17 had a percentage cut up to

22:19 central office so a smaller and

22:23 of the uh 120 or.

22:24 18.

22:27 Where are those are they bus

22:28 monitor like do you have the

22:28 list of who's.

22:29 Yes.

22:32 So um we are going to be

22:33 reducing some vacant positions

22:39 and bus monitors um and uh some

22:42 um special education staff that

22:44 are assigned based on the needs

22:45 of students ieps there's a

22:46 couple of vacant positions

22:48 there that we think will be

22:49 consolidating as well as some

22:51 vacant um city services

22:52 positions.

22:55 Um, the uh uh you're asking

22:57 about sort of the remaining one

22:58 tenth right now there's also

22:59 some some custodial reductions

23:01 as we have fewer buildings.

23:02 Um.

23:06 You mentioned some of our bus

23:07 monitors.

23:10 Dan, if you could chime in here

23:12 because when we had our hearing

23:14 on transportation last month we

23:14 were talking about.

23:16 the need to have.

23:17 More bus.

23:17 Right.

23:19 And that many of the busses

23:22 they're.

23:22 can't leave the yard if

23:25 Not following the ieps the one

23:27 to ones the safety monitors.

23:31 So how is that going to affect

23:32 that conversation.

23:34 ?

23:38 As a uh.

23:41 Yeah I appreciate that question

23:41 councilor.

23:43 Um so the the reductions as.

23:44 Chief flynn.

23:46 mentioned are in vacant

23:47 positions right now.

23:47 So we are.

23:50 Um keeping the same number

23:51 of active bus monitors that we

23:53 have and what we found is that

23:55 with that staffing that we've

23:56 had we have not seen any

23:58 coverage issues yet this year.

24:00 And as we're projecting further

24:01 reductions in the number

24:03 of routes aligned with uh, you

24:04 know, school closures and

24:04 enrollment.

24:06 I know they've permanently been

24:07 cut.

24:08 Yes.

24:09 that's correct.

24:12 And we haven't seen any

24:16 interruptions on busses being

24:17 able to pick up, drop.

24:19 Off or have the correct number

24:20 of bus monitors.

24:23 At all this year there's been

24:26 100% attendance matching the

24:26 needs.

24:30 not just the one I'm we're

24:32 talking I get it that it's ieps

24:33 and what's written.

24:35 Uh what what we've found is

24:37 that um the the number of bus

24:39 monitors we have is, you know,

24:41 sufficient to cover daily

24:41 operations every day.

24:42 Yes.

24:42 Okay.

24:45 I'll go back um, after this

24:47 but I feel like that was

24:48 different from the conversation

24:50 we had when we were just

24:50 talking about.

24:52 Bus busses last time.

24:54 Um, okay.

24:58 Izzy, um, I have a question.

25:00 I know we were just talking

25:00 earlier the.

25:06 I hear, um we talk a lot or you

25:08 know, a lot of attention is

25:09 brought to some of the.

25:11 Bigger safety concerns and

25:13 issues if it's a firearm, if

25:15 it's a fired, if it's a video

25:16 that goes viral or you know

25:18 texting to us and concerns

25:21 which are definitely concerns

25:22 and need to be addressed but I

25:24 know we spent a lot of or most

25:25 of the time talking about that.

25:26 I wanted to talk more.

25:28 About the.

25:30 You know, kindergarten first

25:31 second the elementary grades,

25:33 the lower grades where you hear

25:36 often um, especially with the

25:38 expansion of inclusion and just

25:40 placement and if we're.

25:42 Cutting is the supports needed

25:44 for many of our students and

25:46 just many kids maybe not

25:48 feeling safe parents raising

25:50 these concerns teachers

25:51 themselves in a safe space if

25:53 they feel like they can relay

25:55 that safely or get support from

25:56 their administration.

25:58 So can you talk about like what

26:01 is your role and how you play

26:03 into that need or is that

26:04 something that you don't step

26:05 in for?

26:07 Excuse me.

26:08 Thank you for the question.

26:12 So school leaders have total

26:12 autonomy um.

26:15 Especially with the elementary

26:16 schools whether they want

26:17 safety personnel on site or

26:18 not.

26:18 Um.

26:24 currently, uh the bulk

26:26 of the safety officers are

26:28 dispatched to the schools, uh,

26:29 that are in higher need.

26:31 Uh, so most of the high schools

26:33 will have a one or more.

26:34 Um.

26:38 we currently have 58, uh,

26:41 safety officers, um, after the

26:43 cuts and stuff I have two

26:43 openings.

26:47 Um, so I'll have uh, 60 and

26:50 when when fully staffed uh, we

26:53 have uh, over 120 buildings

26:54 that we have to provide

26:55 security for so you can

26:56 understand that those

26:57 situations the resources are

26:58 stretched thin.

27:02 However, with that said, um,

27:04 school leaders school

27:05 administrators have the

27:07 opportunity to call when

27:09 incidents of concerns arise.

27:12 Um, we do deploy, uh, safety

27:14 personnel to those elementary

27:17 schools um, when when the need

27:19 is uh is great.

27:22 Um they also are secondary

27:23 sites for those that are

27:23 assigned to schools.

27:25 They're there for dismissal and

27:28 then we do dispatch so that

27:30 safety personnel are there um

27:31 as a secondary site for

27:34 arrivals dismissals uh and our

27:37 um the lieutenants to

27:38 supervisors and a sergeants are

27:39 required to go and check in

27:41 with those uh, elementary

27:42 schools uh, regularly.

27:44 There's another division that

27:46 we have called the vipers uh,

27:48 that is an acronym for violence

27:50 intervention prevention and

27:51 restorative specialist.

27:53 These are folks that have been

27:53 trained.

27:54 It just started the school year

27:55 .

27:56 So this is why you MAY be

27:57 hearing it for the first time.

27:59 Um, they were formerly the

28:00 community connection

28:02 coordinators from last year who

28:04 were prior to that was saws or

28:05 street workers.

28:07 Um and so they've all been

28:09 trained in mediation and

28:11 conflict resolution and so

28:12 they're also how.

28:13 Many do we have?

28:17 Uh ten uh members and one team

28:19 leader who plays both roles.

28:21 So it'll be a total of 11.

28:24 Um, they can be requested to

28:26 come in when you know, when

28:27 we're informed, uh, or when

28:29 safety is informed of an issue,

28:30 referrals can be made.

28:32 So don cromwell is the team

28:32 leader.

28:33 Uh, she'll get dispatch, she'll

28:36 get notified, she'll assign

28:38 somebody, uh, the case that

28:39 person is responsible for

28:40 connecting with the school.

28:42 Uh, connecting with parents.

28:44 The mediations work when all

28:47 parties volunteer are on board.

28:49 Uh, and so they understand like

28:50 when we're dealing with, uh,

28:52 elementary school kids, it's a

28:53 different approach than we

28:54 would with uh, with the high

28:55 school students.

28:58 So, um, we can schedule regular

28:59 check ins and things of that

29:01 nature to make sure that the

29:02 school feels supported.

29:04 So there are some options there

29:05 for the school leaders if they

29:06 requested it.

29:07 Thank you.

29:08 I know my time's up.